--- title: Cy Says Blog | Podcast (9) description: Podcast | Cy Says Blog is a place where industry professionals, STEM enthusiasts, and career seekers can find relevant and timely news and content about cybersecurity. (9) --- [![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hs-fs/hubfs/Cyberup%20Logo_no_tagline-1.png?width=1966&height=881&name=Cyberup%20Logo_no_tagline-1.png)](https://wecyberup.org/) Open main menu Close main menu # Cy Says Blog & Podcast Select Category apprenticeship Blog board members certification college cost management CTF cybersecurity diversity Graduate hacking Hiring Interviewing Latest News Leadership Networking Podcast Skill-gap Skills-Based Hiring skillsbasedhiring social engineering STEM training veterans youth program This is a search field with an auto-suggest feature attached. - There are no suggestions because the search field is empty. Posts about: ## Podcast (9) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/Cyberup%20Logo_FIN-3.png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [apprenticeship,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/apprenticeship) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep 38:Our Visit to the White House w/Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/our-visit-to-the-white-house-w/tony-bryan) Dec 6, 2022, 2:42:50 PM In this episode, Tony Bryan shares a few moments and stories about his trip to the White House to represent the 204 newly appointed Apprenticeship Ambassadors. He also shared what the program means, the opportunities it provides, and how you can get involved. [https://www.c-span.org/video/?522597-1](https://www.c-span.org/video/?522597-1)/lady-jill-biden-remarks-apprenticeship-ambassador-initiative Tony also spent time talking more about the 120-day apprenticeship sprint and some of the upcoming events they are hosting with partners to recruit employers. [Listen to "Ep 38: Our Visit to the White House w/Tony Bryan" on Spreaker.](https://www.spreaker.com/user/cysavestheday/whitehousevisit)   [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/our-visit-to-the-white-house-w/tony-bryan) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/Cyberup%20Logo_FIN-3.png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [apprenticeship,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/apprenticeship) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep. 37: How to Break into Cybersecurity w/Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep.-37-how-to-break-into-cybersecurity-w/tony-bryan) Dec 6, 2022, 2:42:05 PM In this episode, Tony Bryan shares the 3 questions he asks every potential apprentice when CyberUp is contacted about their cybersecurity apprenticeship. 1. What is your timeline? 2. What is your budget? 3. How do you learn best? These simple questions help point an interested person to the best option for them and ensures they are making the right decision to pursue the industry. There isn't a one size fits all approach to gaining skills and by asking yourself this you will determine the right first step for you. [Listen to "Ep 37: How to Break into Cybersecurity w/Tony Bryan" on Spreaker.](https://www.spreaker.com/user/cysavestheday/breakintocyber)   [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep.-37-how-to-break-into-cybersecurity-w/tony-bryan) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/Cyberup%20Logo_FIN-3.png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [diversity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/diversity) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep. 36: The Importance of Collaboration in Cyber w/Dougan Sherwood](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep.-36-the-importance-of-collaboration-in-cyber-w/dougan-sherwood) Dec 6, 2022, 2:41:25 PM In this episode of the LevelUp Cyber podcast, host Tony Bryan is joined by guest Dougan Sherwood. Dougan is the Executive Director of the Global Center for Cybersecurity (GCC). GCC is on a mission to increase the diversity of the cybersecurity workforce and connect companies together in a common org to do it collectively. A discussion was had on all of this plus the value of working together. [Listen to "Ep 36: The Importance of Collaboration in Cyber w/Dougan Sherwood" on Spreaker.](https://www.spreaker.com/user/cysavestheday/collaborationwithgcc)   [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep.-36-the-importance-of-collaboration-in-cyber-w/dougan-sherwood) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/Cyberup%20Logo_FIN-3.png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [apprenticeship,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/apprenticeship) [certification,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/certification) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep. 35: Skills vs. Pedigree in Cybersecurity w/Franz Payer](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep.-35-skills-vs.-pedigree-in-cybersecurity-w/franz-payer) Dec 6, 2022, 2:40:42 PM In episode 35 of the LevelUp Cyber podcast your host, Tony Bryan is joined by the CEO and co-founder of Cyber Skyline, Franz Payer. Franz and Tony chatted about the difference between skill attainment and checking boxes with degrees and certifications. [Listen to "Ep 35: Skills versus Pedigree in Cybersecurity w/Franz Payer" on Spreaker.](https://www.spreaker.com/user/cysavestheday/skillsvspedigree)   [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep.-35-skills-vs.-pedigree-in-cybersecurity-w/franz-payer) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [apprenticeship,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/apprenticeship) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep 34: How to Break into a Cybersecurity Career w/Gary Chan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/34-how-to-break-into-a-cybersecurity-career-w/gary-chan) Dec 6, 2022, 2:39:45 PM In this episode of the LevelUp Cyber podcast, host Tony Bryan is joined by CISO of SSM Health, Gary Chan. Gary shares some of the ways he interviews, offers guidance to mentors, and answers the question "if you could wave a wand to solve the talent pipeline." [Listen to "Ep 34: How to Break into a Cybersecurity Career w/Gary Chan" on Spreaker.](https://www.spreaker.com/user/cysavestheday/garychan)   [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/34-how-to-break-into-a-cybersecurity-career-w/gary-chan) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/Cyberup%20Logo_FIN-3.png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [diversity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/diversity) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep. 33: Reimagining hiring and diversity in cybersecurity with Eddie Williams](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep.-33-reimagining-hiring-and-diversity-in-cybersecurity-with-eddie-williams) Dec 6, 2022, 2:38:36 PM On this episode of LevelUp Cyber Podcast, we were joined by Eddie Williams. Eddie is a veteran and former PwC Cyber Manager. He shares the importance of rethinking how companies are hiring, the importance of a diverse team, and if he had a magic wand how he would solve the cybersecurity talent pipeline problem. [Listen to "Ep 33: Reimagining hiring and diversity in cybersecurity w/Eddie Williams" on Spreaker.](https://www.spreaker.com/user/cysavestheday/reimaginehiring)   [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep.-33-reimagining-hiring-and-diversity-in-cybersecurity-with-eddie-williams) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/Cyberup%20Logo_FIN-3.png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [apprenticeship,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/apprenticeship) [CTF,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/ctf) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep. 32: What individuals can do to break into the cybersecurity field](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep.-32-what-individuals-can-do-to-break-into-the-cybersecurity-field) Dec 6, 2022, 2:37:46 PM This podcast hosted by CyberUp's Executive Director, Tony Bryan, provides insights on how individuals can get involved and expand their opportunities to break into a career. It is a continuation of the series [Listen to "Ep 32: What individuals can do to break into the cybersecurity field" on Spreaker.](https://www.spreaker.com/user/cysavestheday/ep-32-what-individuals-can-do-to-break-i) . [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep.-32-what-individuals-can-do-to-break-into-the-cybersecurity-field) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/Cyberup%20Logo_FIN-3.png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [apprenticeship,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/apprenticeship) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep. 31 Are we making a difference in cybersecurity talent? part 2](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep.-31-are-we-making-a-difference-in-cybersecurity-talent-podcast/part-2) Dec 6, 2022, 2:36:28 PM A follow-up discussion to a blog posted this past week at [https://wecyberup.org/are-we-actually-making-a-differing-in-cybersecurity-workforce/](https://wecyberup.org/are-we-actually-making-a-differing-in-cybersecurity-workforce/). Fresh from the NICE Conference in Atlanta, Tony Bryan, Executive Director, asks a simple question, "Are we making a difference?" Over six years later, billions of dollars spent, and the creation of tons of new products, training, and certifications we are still being outpaced for cybersecurity job growth. What can we do and what should we do to make a dent? Tony provides a few thoughts, suggestions and examples of companies that have built models that work. Check it out! Articles and websites referenced in the podcast: [https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252520947/Over-a-third-of-cyber-security-professionals-plan-career-change](https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252520947/Over-a-third-of-cyber-security-professionals-plan-career-change) [https://www.cyberseek.org/heatmap.html](https://www.cyberseek.org/heatmap.html) [Listen to "Ep 31: Are we closing the cybersecurity skills gap?" on Spreaker.](https://www.spreaker.com/user/cysavestheday/cyberskillsgap)   [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep.-31-are-we-making-a-difference-in-cybersecurity-talent-podcast/part-2) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/Cyberup%20Logo_FIN-3.png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [apprenticeship,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/apprenticeship) [Hiring,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/hiring) [Skill-gap,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/skill-gap) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep 30: What companies can do to "stop closing the skills gap" - part 3](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-30-what-companies-can-do-to-stop-closing-the-skills-gap-part-3) Dec 6, 2022, 2:34:42 PM Check out part 3 of the Top 10 ways to not close the cybersecurity skills gap sessions. Today's discussion covers the 5 things companies can do right now to create environments that are conducive to hiring entry-level talent. [Listen to "Ep 30: What companies can do to "stop closing the skills gap" - part 3" on Spreaker.](https://www.spreaker.com/user/cysavestheday/skillsgapcompany)   [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-30-what-companies-can-do-to-stop-closing-the-skills-gap-part-3) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/Cyberup%20Logo_FIN-3.png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [STEM,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/stem) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep 29: Engaging students in cyber competitions w/Spark](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-29-engaging-students-in-cyber-competitions-w/spark) Dec 6, 2022, 2:30:45 PM Tune in and listen to the PowerUp Cyber Games powerhouse team from Parkway School District's SPARK Program. 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