--- title: Cy Says Blog | Podcast (7) description: Podcast | Cy Says Blog is a place where industry professionals, STEM enthusiasts, and career seekers can find relevant and timely news and content about cybersecurity. (7) --- [![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hs-fs/hubfs/Cyberup%20Logo_no_tagline-1.png?width=1966&height=881&name=Cyberup%20Logo_no_tagline-1.png)](https://wecyberup.org/) Open main menu Close main menu # Cy Says Blog & Podcast Select Category apprenticeship Blog board members certification college cost management CTF cybersecurity diversity Graduate hacking Hiring Interviewing Latest News Leadership Networking Podcast Skill-gap Skills-Based Hiring skillsbasedhiring social engineering STEM training veterans youth program This is a search field with an auto-suggest feature attached. - There are no suggestions because the search field is empty. Posts about: ## Podcast (7) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/LevelUp%20Podcast%2058%20(1280%20%C3%97%20720%20px).png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [apprenticeship,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/apprenticeship) [certification,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/certification) [training,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/training) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep 58: Why Breaking into Cyber is so Hard w/Matt Peterson](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-58-whyitshardtobreakin) May 9, 2023, 10:41:30 AM In this week's podcast, we discussed why it was so hard to break into cybersecurity. With the increasing importance of cybersecurity, it was no wonder that more and more people were interested in pursuing a career in this field. Our guest today was Matt Peterson with Guidepoint Security, a cybersecurity professional with over two decades of experience. Matt explained that one of the biggest challenges in breaking into cybersecurity was the ever-changing nature of the field. As new technologies and threats emerge, cybersecurity professionals must constantly stay up to date with the latest tools and techniques. This requires a significant amount of time and effort and can be daunting for those just starting out. Another challenge is the lack of formal education and training programs specifically tailored to cybersecurity. While there are some degree programs and certifications available, they may not provide the practical experience and hands-on training that employers are looking for. This can make it difficult for new professionals to get their foot in the door and gain the necessary knowledge to advance in their careers. Additionally, the cybersecurity field is highly competitive, with many qualified candidates vying for a limited number of job openings. This means that even those with the necessary skills and experience may struggle to find employment in the field. Despite these challenges, Matt emphasized that breaking into cybersecurity is not impossible. Networking, gaining practical experience through internships or volunteer work, and continuing education and training can all help aspiring professionals stand out in a crowded field. With dedication and perseverance, it is possible to build a successful career in cybersecurity.   [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-58-whyitshardtobreakin) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/LevelUp%20Podcast%2057%20(1280%20%C3%97%20720%20px).png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep 57: Realities of Chatbots as Cyber Threats with David Strom](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-57-realities-of-chatbots-as-cyber-threats-with-david-strom) May 4, 2023, 1:23:12 PM With all the buzz around Artificial Intelligence and chatbots, it's prime time to discuss cybersecurity concerns. A chatbot is a form of artificial intelligence that surveys previously posted content online to synthesize answers to questions placed in its terminal. Being a function of Internet commentary chatbots may provide erroneous information. To better facilitate accuracy some companies have integrated these chatbots to automate workflows that expose data to potential issues.     [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-57-realities-of-chatbots-as-cyber-threats-with-david-strom) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/LevelUp%20Podcast%2056%20(1280%20%C3%97%20720%20px).png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [veterans,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/veterans) [Networking,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/networking) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep 56: Breaking into cyber thru fed service with Chris Cockburn](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-56-breaking-into-cyber-thru-fed-service-with-chris-cockburn) Apr 24, 2023, 2:39:06 PM Chris Cockburn, cybersecurity advisor for CISA, discusses how to get into cyber with federal jobs. He explains how to match knowledge, skills, and abilities (KSA's) on your resume for USAjobs.gov. Networking with those in roles you want to be in is vital. Ask reqruiters plenty of questions to determine what you want to do and explore strategic partner universities  to potentially get internship opportunities. Most importantly find a mentor.      [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-56-breaking-into-cyber-thru-fed-service-with-chris-cockburn) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/LevelUp%20Podcast%2055%20(1280%20%C3%97%20720%20px).png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep 55:Cyber is more than SOC with Renita Rhodes](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-55cyber-is-more-than-soc-with-renita-rhodes) Apr 18, 2023, 3:17:25 PM Cybersecurity is more than SOC analysts and penetration testing. Popular culture may glamorize the two previously mentioned occupations but there are other cyber careers like cybersecurity awareness training, product management, network security, cloud security, governance & risk, privacy analysis, identity access management, and more. There are many parallels between SOC analyst and these other careers namely the investigation methodology. A good resource for risk management is following a cybersecurity framework     [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-55cyber-is-more-than-soc-with-renita-rhodes) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/_LevelUp%20Podcast%2054%20(1280%20%C3%97%20720%20px).png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [STEM,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/stem) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep 54: Online Safety for Kids with Amber Lowry](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-54-online-safety-for-kids-with-amber-lowry) Apr 10, 2023, 2:57:01 PM Online safety is paramount for Amber as a mom of two small children. Parents and guardians of elementary students especially need to exercise parental controls like cutting off in-app purchases and chat features. Amber also discussed limiting physical access to devices by having blackout times and requiring devices to be used in common space areas. Offline activities for devices are preferential and maintaining open communication with your child is a must. Knowing that your child is properly equipped with online knowledge and prepared to tell you if anything concerning happens is the goal.   [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-54-online-safety-for-kids-with-amber-lowry) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/LevelUp%20Podcast%2053%20(1280%20%C3%97%20720%20px)%20(1).png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep 53: Hiring and Retention Trends for Cyber with Jon Brandt](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-53-hiring-and-retention-trends-for-cyber-with-jon-brandt) Apr 4, 2023, 4:45:33 PM We all know the catch-22; I can't gain experience without a job, but the job requires experience. According to Brandt experience is the number one qualifier for a career and the proverbial silver bullet approach is networking. Given the large reset of the global economy due to the pandemic, layoffs have plagued every occupation. Brandt predicts tech jobs will be more layoff resistant but not completely immune. The idea of remote work also continues to be a way of lowering costs in terms of labor and office space.   [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-53-hiring-and-retention-trends-for-cyber-with-jon-brandt) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/LevelUp%20Podcast%2052%20(1280%20%C3%97%20720%20px)%20(1).png) [apprenticeship,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/apprenticeship) [training,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/training) [college,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/college) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep 52: ACC's Impact on Apprenticeships with Eric Dunker](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-52-accs-impact-on-apprenticeships-with-eric-dunker) Mar 27, 2023, 4:18:02 PM The eco-system for cyber needs to be revamped for the future according to Eric Dunker Ph.D., Vice President of Workforce and Economic Development at Arapahoe Community College. Partnerships and pathways must be the new school approach. Colorado's bipartisan support of apprenticeship has propelled partnerships in the tech space with region-wide incentives. It's not a notion of either apprenticeship or college but how both can work in tandem. [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-52-accs-impact-on-apprenticeships-with-eric-dunker) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/LevelUp%20Podcast%2051%20(1280%20%C3%97%20720%20px)%20(1).png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [apprenticeship,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/apprenticeship) [Hiring,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/hiring) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep 51: Bulldogs vs. Brain Surgeons with Eddie Williams](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-51-bulldogs-vs.-brain-surgeons-with-eddie-williams) Mar 20, 2023, 2:49:39 PM When deciding on a new hire your HR has to be realistic about qualifications for the role. They also have to find the best ratio of no pedigree but experienced workers (Bulldogs) to hyper-specialized professionals (Brain surgeons). Shorten that fantasy laundry list of qualifications to essential skills because those that meet the fantasy requirement (Unicorns) have jobs already. Don't forget bulldogs often become brain surgeons.    [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-51-bulldogs-vs.-brain-surgeons-with-eddie-williams) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/LevelUp%20Podcast%2050.png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [Leadership,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/leadership) [cost management,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cost-management) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep 50: Security is more than a cost center with Dave Stapleton](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-50-security-is-more-than-a-cost-center-with-dave-stapleton) Mar 13, 2023, 2:48:09 PM Dave Stapelton Chief Information Security Officer at Cyber GRX (Global Risk Exchange) details his journey from accounting to cybersecurity. He discusses how the role of CISO has evolved, why security programs are stigmatized as cost centers, and ways the cost center narrative can be changed.   [Tony Bryan](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/author/tony-bryan) [Read More](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-50-security-is-more-than-a-cost-center-with-dave-stapleton) ![](https://news.wecyberup.org/hubfs/Copy%20of%20LevelUp%20Podcast%2048.png) [cybersecurity,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/cybersecurity) [training,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/training) [veterans,](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/veterans) [Podcast](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/tag/podcast) ### [Ep 49: Free Cybersecurity Training Resources with Paul Cummings](https://news.wecyberup.org/cy-says-blog/ep-49-free-cybersecurity-training-resources-with-paul-cummings) Mar 6, 2023, 4:28:36 PM Paul Cummings shares all the free training options for getting into cybersecurity. He names SANS Cyber Aces, Try Hack Me, Range Force, Evolve Security, Cyber Skills 2 Work, and his organization Whole Cyber Human Initiative as go-to training programs. 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